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Posted by robertsgt40 on November 18, 2008 Wait till the depleted uranium scandal surfaces. And they wonder why no one will joint the military. |
Posted by RSB on November 18, 2008 LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE !!
US soldiers from both the Gulf War and the Iraq Invasion have knowingly been poisoned by the sanctioned use of prohibited WMD in the form of Depleted Uranium (DU) weaponry.
Your \'spin\' to blame this illness on \'chemicals\' does not work. Please explain the increase to birth deformaties of children born to Gulf War veterans.
YOU ARE MURDERING YOUR OWN SOLDIERS FOR \"BIG OIL\"
Anne Usher, you should be ashamed of yourself for sprouting \'Administration Spin\' when you should be investigating and OUTING the truth |
Posted by Rabbit on November 18, 2008 It\'s the DEPLETED URANIUM...MORONS! |
Posted by lisaking1966 on November 18, 2008 Every thing they say in this article is true. I am a Gulf War Veteran who is sick and has many many mulitple problems...i get my medical treatment from the VA in San Diego. I am in a Gulf War Study in La Jolla. I have all the signs of MS..however..no active lesions..no MS...and will never be able to see active lesions as i have kidney disease and cannnot have the dye injection...take 10 medications...some several times a day..i swallow 15 at once in the morning...i just also pray for the returning vveterans from Iraa/Afganistan..here is my list of problems..
PTSD, Chronic Kidney Disease..chonic pancreatitis..iBS..Muscle twitches...pain...tired..short term memory is shot..spinal stenosis..my bladder doesn\'t work well..anxiety..depression..agoaphobia..malingnent hypertension..and many more...
my 69 yr. ol father is healthier than me...my older brother was there...not sick..not exposed to anything but oil fires....He is Controller of a big company...i\'m the crazy one in the family..just ask anyone who knows me...!! |
Posted by yup on November 17, 2008 they all deserved what they got, hope they suffer many times more than the millions of iraqis they\'ve tortured and killed |
Posted by wb on November 17, 2008 Stop it!! Dang people there are really some of our brothers that have this. It\'s real! I was there when Bush Sr. was drawing his line in the sand and I didn\'t leave until I saw the fires burning in Kuwait. It sucked, but I\'d go back and if you are any kind of a Vet so would you. If you\'re in line for a check you know it, we know it and they know it. This is them getting in line for a check. GWS is real but you can\'t say every stinking cough or headache is GWS. Soldier up!! <- that\'s not for the warriors that really have this crap and are putting lead down range to just stay alive, it\'s for you other pog jerks trying to ride these hero\'s coattails. Thanks to my brothers that served and remember there\'s only one way in the 82nd and that\'s ALL THE WAY! AIRBORNE!!! |
Posted by Automan on November 17, 2008 i have had these symptoms for about 15 yrs. progressively getting worse itching 365 days a yr sleep or awake scratch until i bleed, eye focusing problems, started memory problems, joint muscle pain aching, deterioration of segments of my spine, numbness. have gone to cleveland clinic, no answers, mayo clinic no answers. brought up pb pills, oil fires shots doc said no such thing as gulf war illness, but no explenation for symptoms excetp ecsema (you dont have ecsema 365). then i need anti depressents... you know just in my head ; ) the symptoms are just allergies. then about to lose my job because of a portion of these and other problems go to va and they avoid alot of the service connected problems i had when i got out. ( the only reason i even went to get service connect when i seperated was because a buddy of mine told me to be sure to go I AM GLAD I LISSEND) THANKS TO HIM. forgot the bowel problems, dry eyes, burning lips, numb face, itching chest and back with welts, spasms in arms and legs. i dont regret being a Marine just that your always to take responsability for your actions. i ask the govt to do the same. loyalty, honor, etc. depressing when u have been in good physical condition your whole life. we need an advacacy group. or better yet lobiest...seems to get the insurance comp, banks, goldman sacs, and every other interest group what they want. |
Posted by Samantha on November 17, 2008 To all of our veterans, past and present, reading this -- I am so sorry our country has let you down.
I have lived well because you have suffered...and every American owes a great debt to you. While I may not agree with the conditions and reasons under which you were deployed, I am humbled to know that hundreds of thousands of men and women stood up for me and my country, and died the same way.
I agree with the earlier poster who says that our veterans should have the same FREE healthcare that our Congress and Senate receive for life. Veterans deserve no less for putting their lives on the line.
I am thankful to live in the United States, and that we have so many fine men and women protecting it. |
Posted by DR. DUH on November 17, 2008 ~DEPLETED URANIUM~ end of story |
Posted by BJ on November 17, 2008 Gulf war illness is not just for military and their families. The government refuses to admit that it is also caused by a Mycoplasma fermentans (incognitus) Garth L. Nicolson, Ph.D and Nancy L. Nicolson, Ph. have studies confirming this. I know because I got it and I was never in the war. I got it from a vet who had just come back from the war and he was sick. There are many who have fibromyalgia who also have the incognitus strain. Forget what the government has to say and if you are still sick and your family members are still sick or you are a nonmilitary person and you have these symptoms get in touch with The Institute for Molecular Medicine http://www.immed.org. They will help you at least know what is wrong. I used a combination of antibiotics and herbs to get better. I do not know if I will ever be well but I\'m better. And yes I have confirmation that I have that strain of mycoplasma. There are some who refuse to believe that non military people have this because they are afraid that it will hurt their chances to get compensation. The fact that others have this does not take away the government\'s responsibility to the Gulf War Vet. But the every day person is not at fault because they were exposed. Sick people should be helped no matter who is at fault. Also the US Department of Defense released a statement in the early 2000 stating that Gulf War was and illness that was airborne. Now they say it was not. Just admit what people have and help them. That is what should be done now. |
Posted by A. jacson on November 17, 2008 Its not just the pills that are causing health problems with your vets .iserved as a gound soldier in kosovo with the ICF my regular unit was part of Britans Military many of my collegues were and are falling ill from problems resulting from exposure to DU weapons that were used by US forces in Kosavo. Iraq 1 and 2 worst part is it does not just effect the soldiers it has effected and will effect thier families (Offspring being born with severe birth defects) as well as the general population of civillians any where that shite is dropped you can already start to see it in the new borns currently in Iraq and its going to get worse humanity at its finest hour if this is not a depopulation program what is it? |
Posted by Alex on November 17, 2008 Some of this is just pure nonsense. I find it funny that several people I know were with the 15th evac(whos chemical monitors went off frequently) have no signs or symtoms. But many of those who are known slackers were the first to scream Gulf War Syndrom. People who weren\'t even in the war front are claiming Gulf War Syndrom, some never left the USA. This strikes me as the give me freebes for nothing syndrom. If there are really sick people they are not being seen due to the bandwagon effect of the slackers. All I can say is Nonsense! |
Posted by Reader11722 on November 17, 2008 Cui Bono? Only Israel benefits from these endless Middle East wars fought by American soldiers. As the U.S. commits war-crimes abroad, that same gov\'t commits treason at home by eliminating habeas corpus, using the judiciary to steal private lands, banning books like \"America Deceived\" from Amazon, Facebook and Wikipedia, conducting warrantless wiretaps and engaging in illegal wars on behalf of Israel. Soon, another false-flag operation will occur (sinking of an Aircraft Carrier by Mossad) and the US will invade Iran. Then we\'ll invade Pakistan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, then .... Final link (before Google Books bends to gov\'t demands and censors the title): http://www.iuniverse.com/Bookstore/BookDetail.aspx?BookId=SKU-000083883 |
Posted by Mark on November 17, 2008 These soldiers should be shown the best of care this nation has to offer - less raises for judges and Senators, etc., and charity for other nations and bail-outs for corrupt unions or mega-rich executives, and spend the money where it\'s intended - in service to this nation! |
Posted by daryl on November 17, 2008
THERE IS NO GULF SYNDROME ... ONLY RADIATION POISONING FROM THE DU !! OUR SOLDIERS AND THE IRAQI COMMUNITY HAVE NOT HAVE NORMAL BIRTHS SINCE THE FIRST WAR - EVERYONE WILL DIE FROM THIS IN 8-10 YEARS THAT HAD THE MOST EXPOSURE - A PROVEN FACT. THIS IS WHY THEY KEEP NEW SOLDIERS AWAY FROM THE 1ST WAR VETERENS -WHEATGRASS IS THE ONLY THING THAT REMOVES RADIATED DAMAGE FROM YOUR BODY - IT TASTES HORRIBLE BUT WILL SAVE YOUR LIFE. |
Posted by reicharD on November 17, 2008 Genocide against our own soldiers..... Look into Joyce Riley\'s website, to find out that this was caused by exposure to toxic chemicals, and also from mandatory injections by all Military, not just those who went over for Gulf War 1. Which have toxic chemicals, and it\'s still being done! |
Posted by LV Vet on November 17, 2008 And many of my fellow brothers from the Vietnam War are still fighting the VA to be able to get benefits for Agent Orange exposure! And also many are seeing private physiologists on their own buck because the VA canceled contracts to cover PTSD treatment with those physiologists. Now they want the physiologists to do it for free. Go figure, they will only be happy when we are gone! |
Posted by LV Vet on November 17, 2008 And many of my fellow brothers from the Vietnam War are still fighting the VA to be able to get benefits for Agent Orange exposure! And also many are seeing private physiologists on their own buck because the VA canceled contracts to cover PTSD treatment with those physiologists. Now they want the physiologists to do it for free. Go figure, they will only be happy when we are gone! |
Posted by trapperkcmo on November 17, 2008 do something about it. supplement iodine.
curezone |
Posted by Sam Waite on November 17, 2008 I was a member of the Black Hole Air War Planning team. We targeted and struck all of the Iraqi\'s CBW assembly sheds and work areas in the first week of the air campaign. We also struck many of the CBW shelters clustered around the work sheds. We did this to deny the munitions to the Iraqi\'s. We were assured that the hazardous materials would be consumed in the infernos. Some of the munition sheds burned for two weeks and airborne CW detectors were positive even at 40K\'AGL. Again the CBW munitions \'experts\' said that the wind drift would prevent toxic levels from developing but the bastards never mentioned low dosage human effects, to us at that time. Either that or the CBW geeks never bothered to test over the past forty years of cold war for low dosage conditions. |
Posted by Chris on November 17, 2008 I am a Gulf War vet, and have been fighting this issue since 1992. If you really want to see something done when calling your useless Congressman, get educated first, then tell your Congressman to do their oversight job. Search the net and find the portfolio of research projects that have been supposedly conducted on our behalf. Once you find the portfolio, review each of the projects and see what your tax dollars have been wasted on. You will find a huge number of projects were on mental health disorders, or PTSD. No wonder they concluded for many years that our illnesses were all PTSD. If our illnesses were all stress related, there would be the same illnesses seen in policemen and firefighters and others in stressful positions. Gee, that answer didn\'t cost $350 million and I don\'t even have a PhD! The other thing you will find is far too many projects have been conducted by VA/DOD medical researchers, with many concluding more research is needed...so more grant money can be provided. When looking at these projects, note who the team members are for each one. You will find the same names on project after project...as if it were just an employment service for some hack doctors at VA/DOD. One project will have one person as the lead researcher, and several team members. Another project will have a different team member as the lead researcher, with the previous leader as a team member. In the end, they pass their projects around the table and call it peer review. Until the Research Advisory Committee was finally put into place, there was very little research performed by anyone outside VA/DOD. Thanks VA and DOD for showing you could care less about your primary focus, and thanks Mr. Congressman for not giving a damn about who you sent into harms way. |
Posted by 24th ID Vet on November 17, 2008 I am a Gulf War Combat Vet. 24th ID (Mech). I took the PB pills, because better those than getting hit with Nerve Gas, which is almost instant death. At least the PB pills gave us a chance of resistance.
I also think it is interesting that many more NG and Reserve troops suffer from GWS than active duty. Could that have to do with free health care?
There may be something there, but 1/4 affected? Pain comes from lots of causes. I\'m not buying that it is all GWS. Sorry. And I mean no disrespect to you all who are truly suffering from GWS. Thank you for your service.
But disease is part of the risk of military service. Over 1/3 of our troops in WWI died from disease rather than hostile fire.
Governments are always sending young men into harm\'s way. That\'s what they do. And we volunteered for it.
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Posted by John on November 17, 2008 I, also, am a Gulf War vet. Never had any of the symptoms or maladies that had been spoken for years, even though I sympathized with all of my brothers-in-arms that did.
A few weeks ago I started haing seizures and was diagnosed with two brain tumors. I don\'t know yet the extent or whether they are malignant. I don\'t know either if it is a result of service in the Middle East or something that would have happened anyway.
I hope we ae all able to gain some answers |
Posted by Artie on November 17, 2008 Wayne wrote:
\"I am a Gulf War Vet, 17 months on the ground over there. 10 years in the Marine Corps! I had an accident about a year after I got out of the Marines and had to have emergency care. The Hospital bills were unbelievable. The VA denied all claims and I was forced to file bankruptcy and lost my business.\"
Wayne, why should the VA pay for an accident you had AFTER you left the military? Should the VA also pay off your mortgage just because you\'re a veteran?
Then, Helomech said:
\"By 2000 I could barely maintain weight/body fat, PT minimums, and think. My civilian docs I went to after retiring now treat me for asthma, acid reflux (they found an ulcer and my throat is pitted), good and bad cholesterol, and bi-polar.\"
This is called \'GETTING OLD\'. Welcome to the club, Helo. Start working out, stop feeling sorry for yourself, and stop wishing for a % disability check from the VA. |
Posted by socrates on November 17, 2008 Why is there not even a mention of the damages cause by Depleted Uranium - DU - that is found in the ammunition. It seems to be discussed quite a bit in articles other than those printed by mainstream media. I know, don\'t let the truth out. Govt does like to poison its own citizens for sure. |
Posted by just jim on November 17, 2008 and PTSD does not exist either, according to a tame Shrink at the VA, who states what ever she is told to say. She lies, as does the VA> Despite the fact that several of the VA Hospitals have PTSD wards, just try and get benfits for the disability. Three letters from three different shrinks, three from PHD. types, benfits ? Nope. One splendid fellow said I might just as well go off and die, because I would before I would get any benfits. If I knew then, what I learned later, I would never have even thought about being in the Military. I really liked the E-Mail sent by the head of VA to remainder of the system. It\'s subject?? SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH,SHHHHHHH. And they did not fire the rotten basturd. |
Posted by Jules on November 17, 2008 I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT THIS IS MORE OF THE \"FAILING IN ALL WAYS MEDIA HYPE\"
I REALLY DONT BELIEVE ANY OF THE SIGNATURES - MORE OF THE SAME JUNK THE 2006 CONGRESS GAVE US - FRAUD AND FLEECING OF AMERICA |
Posted by Douglas Gray on November 17, 2008 Dr. Jawad Al-Ali, head Oncologist in Basra, reported an explosion in cancer cases, with nine members of his own family having it. In Basra, DU is the primary culprit. Whatever the troops exposure, Iraqis have it much worse. A group in Japan already convicted Bush of DU war crimes, |
Posted by Ant on November 17, 2008 If you choose to invade someone else\'s country, don\'t be upset when they try to kill you. If you choose to work with dealy noxious chemicals (nobody watch the first gulf war on T.V. LOL), then you absolutely risk exposure to those chemicals. If you choose to whine about your own stupidity, then you are in fact, a stupid whiny baby. The U.S. is already responsible for the deaths of more innocent people than will ever die from this so-called \"illness\". |
Posted by lizgwvet on November 17, 2008 MS in Gulf War Vets is much greater than in the general population. The data is there, it needs to be recognized by the VA as presumptive for Gulf War Vets. If you are a Gulf War Vet with MS please go to MSVETS@yahoo.com Thank you Ann for this story! |
Posted by Artie on November 17, 2008 Someone figured out that by inventing syndromes of our most honorable in our society (our vets), you can make some real money for yourself and for those veterans.
It is a fallacy to take every single affliction the hundreds of thousands of veterans of GWI had after the war and group it into a specific syndrome. It might exist in our minds (I\'m a GW veteran too), but has no credible standing under medical and scientific analysis. Check the marked percentage difference between enlisted and officer claims of the \'syndrome\'. They were both human and equally \"exposed\", yet enlisted claims are exponentially higher than the officer\'s. Also, the illness and death rate of GW vets is no higher to those that didn\'t deploy in 90-91. Depleted Uranium illness, already mentioned by someone here, is another leftist or vet advocacy scammer group fallacy that might pay off in the future too if pushed hard enough, regardless of evidence to the contrary. |
Posted by Chris on November 17, 2008 I am a Gulf War vet, and have been fighting this issue since 1992. If you really want to see something done when calling your useless Congressman, get educated first, then tell your Congressman to do their oversight job. Search the net and find the portfolio of research projects that have been supposedly conducted on our behalf. Once you find the portfolio, review each of the projects and see what your tax dollars have been wasted on. You will find a huge number of projects were on mental health disorders, or PTSD. No wonder they concluded for many years that our illnesses were all PTSD. If our illnesses were all stress related, there would be the same illnesses seen in policemen and firefighters and others in stressful positions. Gee, that answer didn\'t cost $350 million and I don\'t even have a PhD! The other thing you will find is far too many projects have been conducted by VA/DOD medical researchers, with many concluding more research is needed...so more grant money can be provided. When looking at these projects, note who the team members are for each one. You will find the same names on project after project...as if it were just an employment service for some hack doctors at VA/DOD. One project will have one person as the lead researcher, and several team members. Another project will have a different team member as the lead researcher, with the previous leader as a team member. In the end, they pass their projects around the table and call it peer review. Until the Research Advisory Committee was finally put into place, there was very little research performed by anyone outside VA/DOD. Thanks VA and DOD for showing you could care less about your primary focus, and thanks Mr. Congressman for not giving a damn about who you sent into harms way. |
Posted by Enough conspiracy on November 17, 2008 \"...may also...\"\"...most likely...\"\"...may have done...\"\"...may have been ...\"\"...may (be) consistent...\"\"...are believed to...\"\"...haven’t confirmed...\"\"...Many veterans say...\"\"...said...\"\"...He said...\"\"...he said...\"\"...said trucks...\"\"...said...\"\"...interviewed said...\"\"...is convinced...\"\"...he said...\" Wow. What a collection of heresay, assumptions, and general statistical analyses. I don\'t see a single \"...confirmed by a majority of....\" or anything of the sort. Just look at the comments that have been posted. This is a bunch of conspiracy theorists running this thing. It\'s called PTSD, and if can effect most of your bodiliy functions, as it is such a powerful mental illness. Everybody\'s seen the depression medication ads? They claim that depression does this and that and the other. So, GO SEE YOUR SHRINK and STOP THINKING YOU ARE OK. This happened after WWII and Vietnam, but apparently todays vets think they\'re made of sterner stuff, but they\'re not. They\'ve been through hell, and that\'ll mess with anybody\'s head. The first step to solving THAT problem is admitting that it exists. By the way, the VA won\'t treat you for a mental illness you don\'t admit that you have!
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Posted by BOB GRAHAM on November 17, 2008 Herbacides in Viet Nam pestacides in the Gulf area. Hey brothers and sisters , starnge thing, we all have the same symptoms and the same treatment, more motrin, more vicadin go home and PLEASE don\'t return until called. It is called, we are done with you when we can not use or abuse you on the field so get used to it at home until you die out of the system.
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Posted by Ssg Rhino on November 17, 2008 The policy of the V.A.towards compensation has been deny, deny, deny, until the veteran dies. I guess enough of us have died now that the government may compensate some of the survivors. Agent Orange all over again. Our domestic enemies are far WORSE than the foreign ones. |
Posted by frank h on November 17, 2008 when the doc was passing out pills and said we were guinea pigs i said fuck that and ended up buried them in my fighting hole at the al- wafra oil fields in kuwait,but i do have some of the symptoms described! |
Posted by D. Thorsen on November 17, 2008 For your review... |
Posted by Dutch on November 17, 2008 My oldest son went into Kuwait with the 2nd Armored.
In the ensuing years, he\'s gone bald by the age of 32 (no heridary baldness in the Family), suffered from chronic diarreah since 1991, his first child was born with severe birth defects and died by the age of 8 years.
And people like Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Perle and the rest of that gang of parasites continue to pontificate as to how noble that war was.
This government deserves no respect and no support from We, The People. It ceased representing us years ago. |
Posted by TORQUED on November 17, 2008 $340M spent already, more to be spent only to wiggle out of responsibility? How about we forgo the study and spend the money helping ailing Veterans.... Assuming the cost of another study would exceed the first, that a LOT of $ that could go towards helping these folks rather than fighting them. |
Posted by abstractduk on November 17, 2008 some scientific brass of the highest order has to come out and tell the truth about D.U! come on mate! we\'ll protect you! |
Posted by Mack on November 17, 2008 The VA takes care of itself, not veterans. We learned that after Viet-Nam, and it\'s apparently still true today. |
Posted by Hugh on November 17, 2008 fyi |
Posted by b on November 17, 2008 My husband served in the Gulf War and has subsequently died due to being exposed to the chemicals while there. I do have a claim with the VA but have not heard anything in quite a while.
How can I forward this information to help support my claim?
Thank you. |
Posted by adavis on November 17, 2008 What about radiation poisoning from depleted uranium shell casings? A major problem pretty much ignored. |
Posted by tyler on November 17, 2008 i read an article a month or so ago in which a gulf vet came out and said that the u.s. in fact dropped a nuclear warhead back then. the possibility of radiation poisoning should be looked into. |
Posted by Reinko on November 17, 2008 It is good news that up to 25% of the Gulf war veterans have so called \'gulf syndrome\'. It is a pity these veterans still have access to health care (likely via the VA), it would be even better if they suffered without health insurance. They simply got what they deserved, lets not do difficult or emotional about that. As fow what concerns the Pentagon: After AIG, the Federal Reserve, all five investment banks, we now have another American institution not understand the basic things of her own business. (In the case of the Pentagon this is making war.) |
Posted by maxemaxx on November 17, 2008 I knew a man who served in special ops in this war and was exposed to nerve gas, other things....i don\'t remember what they were. he had all of these symptoms. then he killed several professors at his nursing school and killed himself. it makes me sick. we are ruining some of our best and brightest. absolutely ruining their lives. |
Posted by Zstimman on November 17, 2008 The way the military handled the threat is typical. They overdid it with the chemicals, shots, and pills, creating more problems that they ever thought they would suffer at the hands of Sadam. The military does the same thing today. Look at all the gear the military is required to wear. Pounds and pounds of protective gear that just slows them down, and overheats them to the point of causing heat stroke. They can get in and out of a Humvee with all that junk. All because somebody doesn\'t want to be blamed if somebody gets injured. Yet, who accepts responsibility for damage done as a result of over protection? |
Posted by Chris on November 17, 2008 Sounds like the agent orange cover-up post Vietnam War. I am mostly supportive of our military and its missions but why is it that they seem to disregard the health and well being of the troops after these missions are successfully (for the most part) carried out? What a disgrace! To allow our youth to sacrifice for us and rather than reward them for this sacrifice, we discard them like we would yesterday\'s newspaper. We were once a compasionate nation and people. Let us all strive to get that back. |
Posted by HeloMech on November 17, 2008 Wow! To read the story and postings is chilling. I did not go into Kuwait or Iraq, but was serving along Kuwaits border within 5 miles. I returned with joint pain, weak and low endurance muscles,burts of high & low mentality, memory loss, and bad eyesight all at age 32. Retired at 20 years in 2000 and no one had addressed any of my complaints other than take motrin and wear glasses. By 2000 I could barely maintain weight/body fat, PT minimums, and think. My civilian docs I went to after retiring now treat me for asthma, acid reflux (they found an ulcer and my throat is pitted), good and bad cholesterol, and bi-polar. Just the other day a cyst was found on a kidney. I am slow to recover from any illness or body damage. |
Posted by Randy on November 17, 2008 It is time to find out how many American citizens are really ready to \"support out troops\". I will go anywhere anytime to stand with these men and women and force those responsible to accountability. |
Posted by Wayne on November 17, 2008 If people only knew to the extent of cover up the Pentagon goes to that alone would spark a new civil war just from the veterans themselves. If we are supposed to be so good and for all mankind, saving and policing other nations and preventing mass genocide elsewhere, why are there people in positions that are capable of making decisions to treat our own soldiers, sailors and marines this way.
I am a Gulf War Vet, 17 months on the ground over there. 10 years in the Marine Corps! I had an accident about a year after I got out of the Marines and had to have emergency care. The Hospital bills were unbelievable. The VA denied all claims and I was forced to file bankruptcy and lost my business.
If anyone wants to talk about being bitter keep it to yourself, you want to make a change get involved with your Congressional reps. and do something about this.
I still love my country and I would serve it again just to stand beside the men that I served with again. You can\'t take HONOR away from someone who has been there or served this country in a good way.
\" There are Men in the Shadows of the Men in the Shadows and we are watching them.\"
I like this quote! Who ever wrote this was a very brave man and knows something I don\'t.
Those of you who can, get involved and help get this problem fixed.
How about giving the same healthcare that Congress has to all U.S. Veterans. Past or present. Any one who served this country and went to a foreign land to a war deserves no less!!!!!!!!!!!
Imagine someone like any draft dodger sitting in congress making decisions that effect your very livihood either here in the states or when you are getting shot at by the enemy. Decisions about whether or not to give you the proper equipment you need, weapons that fire and won\'t jam and body armor that actually protects your body from the enemy. Those are the people who have everything and they just keep wanting more and want to do less.
They are the ones with no Honor!!!
Wayne |
Posted by Parrothead68 on November 17, 2008 \"The report also faults the Pentagon, saying it clearly recognized scientific evidence substantiating Gulf War illness in 2001 but did not acknowledge it publicly.\"
Isn\'t this the same bureaucratic go-around the Vietnam Vets had with Agent Orange? Yes, it is. Along with the other agenda items Mr. Obama has, I suggest he throw in a good house cleaning of the Pentagon bureaucrats who are committing treason by not FULLY supporting our veterans - especially those who incur illness or injury while in the service of their country. |
Posted by Mohammed AL-Saedi on November 17, 2008
This is war on americans, the neo conservatives were trying to damag all mankind. These crimes must be investigated and those who are responsible must be brought to the justice. |
Posted by 666 on November 17, 2008 They volunteered to this duty they should accept it as a part of war, at least they are alive and not in pieces from a suicide bomber. |
Posted by rich on November 17, 2008 joyce riley has been documenting GWI since the early 90\'s at gulfwarvets.com
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=goldieshome&view=videos
goldieshouse.piczo.com |
Posted by Rendell S. Whitehead on November 17, 2008 WOW! Something that we knew, and 340 million to find it out. Now, What are we going to do? Anyone? Beuler? The US Gov has been famous for finding the problem decades last, and no resolve. |
Posted by doug on November 17, 2008 You\'d think by now American\'s would learn to stay away from military service. We haven\'t won a war since 1945, and the government treats it\'s veteran\'s like disposable trash after they serve. Why join a losing team? Makes no sense to me. I learned the lessons Vietnam offered and stayed away from the military. They take innocent youth and teach them how to drink, smoke, whore, and kill to satisfy the politicians greed. Some christian country huh? |
Posted by Erik on November 17, 2008 This illness wouldn\'t be from the pills they made us take, would it? Yes I am a Desert Storm Vet! These doctors know what I am talking about!! The pills that have a name longer than a 1976 Buick! We were all just test rats. \"Neurotoxin\" That they gave us!!
Erik D Desert Storm Vet. |
Posted by Mudpucker on November 17, 2008 This is an example of The Executive branch and the Legislative branch of our government failing to care for the men and women who are truely the most noble and self sacrificing people our nation has to offer. Those who would volunteer to commit to military service in hostile conditions. It is the least we, as a nation, can do, to care for our vetrans in an honest and compassionate manner. What if it was YOU or YOUR BROTHER SISTER MOTHER FATHER COUSIN FRIEND? Easy to say, easy to write, easy to read, now what to do? DO whats right, DO IT. |
Posted by Stick on November 17, 2008 I am one of those veterans effected by GWS. I find it hard to believe that an article can be written like this without mentioning the anthrax vaccinations.
If you look at the record of batches that were \"enhanced\" with squalene, you can trace damaged troops back to those lot numbers.
Once again the military medical system is able to avoid facing the demons of its own creation. |
Posted by K.W. on November 17, 2008 Thanks for acknowledging what thousands of American and Allied troops already knew and their governments denied. What is more,tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Iraqi men, women and children are also afflicted with our chemicals including depleted uranium. It makes it difficult to comprehend what our objective in Iraq was now as we have sickened our troops and those of our allies and made the Iraqi people suffer more of the same- all in the name of Freedom and Democracy. I guess the War god is appeased now. Can everybody drop their weapons and go home - if they have one? |
Posted by Ex Trooper on November 17, 2008 Our military personnel, once discharged, are forgotten. A Veterans Day celebration is not what we need. We need real medical attention and care. We have been abandoned by our Government. Many more of us are coming home with no jobs, insurance or money and we are all sick too. What will become of us. |
Posted by NoOneYouKnow on November 17, 2008 The Pentagon\'s unofficial motto is \"Use \'em and lose \'em.\" America\'s corporations and their representatives, the Bush family and Bill Clinton, want to liberate Iraq\'s oil, but they don\'t want to pay for taking care of the soldiers who paid the price. |
Posted by GulfWar1 on November 17, 2008 As a victim of Gulf War Syndrome I think the worst thing that has happened to us is the stigma the medical profession and my government has put upon us. I have been told the cause of my illness was the result of unknown exposure to the stress of combat. I know what happened to myself and others and it was not caused by stress. That is humiliating and about as professional as you would expect from some of so called intelligent persons. Finally, we have some kind of half way definitive study an it only took $60 million wasted dollars of hide the problem money first. You have got to love those idiots WE put in office. |
Posted by Robert on November 17, 2008 Just as the media libeled the Vietnam vet, now it seeks to do the same to the Iraq vet. The media is at its best when smearing people they never even met and know nothing about. I am so ashamed of the conduct of the American media. |
Posted by Dale on November 17, 2008 Yup, we were Guinea pigs, no doubt about it. Soldiers usually are. Now, my skin rash, acid reflux, exercise induced asthma and all the rest are infinitely preferable to the results of exposure to the Gatling gun\'s fire, mustard gas, agent orange, or nuclear bomb testing. Its kind of our lot in life. |
Posted by clem2 on November 17, 2008 It\'s pretty obvious we poisoned our own troops with these chemicals. It is totally disgusting and morally bankrupt.
BTW, the \"flame retardants\" they are using to fight CA fires apparently are toxic as well. They cause fish and wildlife to die, so don\'t think they don\'t have effects on people.
I swear, I can\'t believe how stupid people are, so sad to say.
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Posted by Joe Law on November 17, 2008 Did I ask \'em to go? No-o. Now they want our attention? Same ol\' story, every time.
Read my lips: Don\'t GO there.
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Posted by Blamminski on November 17, 2008 Poor dumb brainwashed sheep working for their Nazi misleaders. |
Posted by p.rickinsult on November 17, 2008 Sick allright.Sick and disgusting aspect . Soldiers being treated like the excrement end result of the military industrial complex. Only thing worse would have been sick draftees. Any one remember Vietnam? Oh ya, most soldiers today are to young to remember and America is not to big on teaching history to teenagers for some reason. |
Posted by KLG on November 17, 2008 How about some of that bail out money for our greatest, our military, who need us now after we needed them them....they answered the call and it seems we let them down big time....we want to fight a war but we complain it\'s too expensive and we don\'t want to pay for it, we want to fight a war but not stay until the job is finished and leave before we win it, we want to fight a war but not take care of the men who fought it and paid with their life or quality of life. Where did my America go? |
Posted by Dave on November 17, 2008 The article is misleading most likely because of the excellent effort to avoid the conversation over vaccine issues. The Anthrax vaccine is the only common denominator to those the GWS. Take a look at all the nations that were there and see who took it and who did not and who, magically, does NOT have GWS.
Even today with Dr. Ivins having killed himself over the mailings and other such information and the DOD finally admitting Anthrax vaccine ia 175 time more reactagenic then previously admitted we still hear the lies about this harmful, useless and ineffective vaccine. |
Posted by Doc on November 17, 2008 Took the p.b. ordered to. made sure each Marine did also, ordered to as the Doc. if i only new then ? All the incountry health records conveinently never made it back to N.C. So see I new those symptoms werent BS, like the Bush Sr. stated ! |
Posted by Mike S. on November 17, 2008 It\'s not only the troops who were on land that suffer. Many of us who were in the Navy and out in the Northern Gulf were exposed to everything and anything that blew off the Saudi-Kuwaiti-Iraqi coasts. Oil well smoke, chemicals, uranium particles, anything. We got it all. The wend took everything and blew it out over the Gulf.
I have talked to the VA about my problems and I am always told that I was on a ship, I couldn\'t have GWS. The VA is staffed by incompetent fools and lazy people who don\'t give a damn about us. |
Posted by CDS IS AT FAULT on November 17, 2008 It is CRIMINAL that there has been so little research and help for the victims of Gulf War Syndrome. The same is true for those who suffer from CFIDS, chronic fatigue immune dysfunction syndrome. These two conditions are very similar and probably are related.
CDC has dropped the ball BIG TIME in researching and assisting these very ill people! |
Posted by David Michael on November 17, 2008 Looks like to me our government is killing more of our own soldiers at a higher rate then the so called enemy are! I wonder what soft kill rate the new guys will get. It\'s all about eugenics and eliminating guys that know how to defend the Republic from the domestic enemies at home like the CFR and their masters. |
Posted by Andy on November 17, 2008 Here\'s something interesting. |
Posted by Joe on November 17, 2008 Now I want to join the military; it\'s obvious they support the troops like they were their own children. And the VA is such a helpful agency that wears its heart on its sleeve. Easy to get disability coverage, too. You never have to write to your congressman or anything.
USA! USA!
(On a side note, my friend is dying from Gulf War syndrome and has finally, after a decade, gotten some positive signs that his disability and lost income will be approved, that poor skeletal, emphysemic, arthritic 35 year-old.) |
Posted by Jim in Texas on November 17, 2008 This is what your government does to it\'s troops, in spite of all the \'Support\" B.S.
For Vietnam vets it was agent orange. And your government denied for 20 years there was any danger or ill effects, just malingering. Now, it is more of the same for the Gulf War vets. Welcome home brothers and sisters, it was 30 yrs before I heard that. Don\'t let the VA outwait you, \'cause they will. Call your congressman and your senator. Don\'t quit\' |
Posted by bill on November 16, 2008 After the Agent Orange fiasco where there were accusations of cover up, everyone at the VA wants to be very careful not to dismiss it so easily. There is no cover up, and in fact, to the contrary, the natural incentive for a VA scientist looking into it is to find something, get lots of study grants, and get rich and famous. I don\'t think there was a cover up of Agent Orange, either. It is just that Dioxin is so toxic that practically undetectable traces were causing the problem and no one knew it at first. Then, later when it was found, no one thought that such a small amount could hurt anything. Both the herbicides in Agent Orange were in common use on farms, etc. I had used them myself - one at a time, and my kids have all 21 fingers and toes. The problem came from making them together, and getting a by product of dioxin. I never found out if the chemical engineers did not know the dioxin was being made (I think they did not), or whether they knew, but thought it was not harmful. Analytical methods were not so good in those days. Nothing was covered up. They really believed what they were saying.
I don\'t want to offend anyone here, but another factor in the Vietnam years: you may have encountered a fair number of vets who joined because the judge gave them the choice of that or prison. The tendency of this population to malinger no doubt led to a backlash of resistance by by VA staff not wishing to be duped. I know my approach to a psychopath is to try to figure out what he really wants (it is never what they say), and make damn sure he doesn\'t get it. :)
All that being said, I do know a number of Gulf war vets with this condition, and most of them are inspiring giants among men who would not even think of malingering.
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Posted by Polly on November 16, 2008 Why is not comprehensive care given those who served in the military? It is the ethical thing to do including researching effects of chemicals by those you use them. This is common sense. |
Posted by DaveC on November 16, 2008 About damn time.
340thS&S 1st Cav Shield/Storm |
Posted by eva on November 16, 2008 interesting |
Posted by edlogic on November 16, 2008 hundreds of thousands of verterans have been suffering with this for almost 2 decades while the u s gov has continued to lie about it and cover it up and because of the lying and cover up - it was just a conspiracy theory to most people even though the evidence and documentation and reporting by alternate media has been there all along so to answer the question - if 911 was an inside job - how could they keep it a secret they don\'t have to - all they have to do is just keep lying and saying it didn\'t happen the way we saw it happen
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Posted by Ruggy on November 16, 2008 Let us not forget aplastic anemia, caused by exposure to depleted uranium. This is reputedly a large part of the overall gulf war syndrome, which has multiple causes. |
Posted by Joe Johnson on November 16, 2008 I\'d bet that many of these soldiers are suffering from Blastocystosis. This parasitic infection is common in the middle east. It is often misdiagnosed and rarely understood. |
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